GMC GSDDespite Ferret Fancier's recent obtuse view on the manner in which the GMC functions, a large number of doctors who have experienced the GMC first hand have a different view. Indeed, a number of discrimination cases have been sent to the General Medical Council. Protection of Human Rights in Public Law is the group currently investigating human rights/civil liberties abuses by the General Medical Council. Feel free to approach the charity Protection of Human Rights in Public Law with any of your concerns. While Ferret and many other doctors continue to be locked in their ivory towers, those who know about the GMC, will be taking action. The rest can simply be lethargic and watch while everyone does the hard work.
Just to clarify matters here, I am not suing the General Medical Council. I find it very boring and tiresome to do so. I am though happily helping others to sue and challenge the General Medical Council. This phenomena is known as Rebellion by Proxy and I happily admit it. I am not part of Protection of Human Rights in Public Law. They approached me having found my details on the internet. The General Medical Council will be pleased with this.
Just to clarify matters here, I am not suing the General Medical Council. I find it very boring and tiresome to do so. I am though happily helping others to sue and challenge the General Medical Council. This phenomena is known as Rebellion by Proxy and I happily admit it. I am not part of Protection of Human Rights in Public Law. They approached me having found my details on the internet. The General Medical Council will be pleased with this.
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20 comments:
Thanks for your kind link!
Actually I have never been a GMC fan and have made this clear many many times.
If you read my piece and kept what was said in context then all I was saying was that the NMC seems to be even worse than the GMC.
The GMC is politically partisan, run by government cronies, etc. Obviously I am no fan of their hounding and victimisation of certain individuals.
What the GMC does do though is investigate things, yes I know it often does this very badly but I wasn't commenting on the quality of these investigations or the way in which they investigate stupid trivial complaints in a way that destroys the careers of doctors in the most unfair and unjust ways.
That's all.
So before sending personal insulting emails please engage your brain.
"So before sending personal insulting emails please engage your brain"
If you do so, then I will Garth. No one is telepathic and your post is supportive of the GMC [ whatever your personal feelings].
"What the GMC does do though is investigate things"
Do they? Run down your own kinds case in R v GMC Ex Parte Remedy UK.
RP
You completely miss the point.
Please don't tell me what my words mean, having completely twisted the meaning of them out of context. This is not what my words mean, this is the meaning that you have ascribed to them quite unfairly with very little basis indeed.
I am not supporting the GMC, I am saying that the NMC are even worse, there is a big difference even if you refuse to see it.
You do yourself absolutely no favours with this kind of behaviour in my opinion.
If I were to suddenly claim that Hitler was not as mad as Mao, this doesn't make me a fan of Hitler, it just means I think Hitler did less harm to people than Mao. This is a hypothetical by the way, just in case you felt the need to fly off your handle on this one too.
Your over reaction to my post says a lot more about you than it does about me. The tone of that email you sent say a lot, you have every right to an opinion but the complete lack of manners you showed in the way in which you expressed your opinion says it all.
An apology would appear to be too much to expect I'd imagine.
"You completely miss the point"
Why would I miss the point? I understood exactly what you meant. As I have taken great pains to point out - there is no independent study or audit [currently] to show that the GMC is better than the NMC. As such, your view [ as laudable as it is] is flawed.
"I am saying that the NMC are even worse"
"This is a hypothetical by the way, just in case you felt the need to fly off your handle on this one too"
Why would I wish to fly off the handle? I have logically explained why your judgment on the GMC is utterly flawed.
You stated "What the GMC does do though is investigate things"
I am asking you " what things would that be" and could we have some examples. And please don't use me as one because they never carried out an "Investigation" - had they done, they would have understood their own mistakes from the outset and not spent 2.5 million of yours and your colleagues hard earned finances.
"You do yourself absolutely no favours with this kind of behaviour in my opinion"
What behaviour would that be? Challenging your view?
"Your over reaction to my post says a lot more about you than it does about me. The tone of that email you sent say a lot, you have every right to an opinion but the complete lack of manners you showed in the way in which you expressed your opinion says it all"
I pointed out by email that your comment showed a lack of respect for numerous members of your profession who are currently undergoing some devastating consequences. This includes those that suffered following the MMC fiasco.
I have never admitted to having any manners at all much like your friend Dr Rant [ who has no matters totally]. I note you would not comment on his "Tone" or his "attitude" even when he rants. Why is that - because the word " fuck" used in every other sentence is more acceptable than a critique of your misguided view.
That is the problem GM - you get so worked up about tone and manners that you forget that your own colleagues [ whom you aren't assisting one bit] are being assassinated by the GMC. You will simply look on because lets face it - you can't put your money where your mouth is and say the GMC is crap - yet you will overinflate their competence by saying they are better than the NMC.
"An apology would appear to be too much to expect I'd imagine"
I would always apologise for my tone, my manner and my methodology of challenging you because I wasn't born with your English Etiquette and for that I have had to pay with my career - but I am never apologizing for sticking up for all my colleagues and friends who are currently suffering because the GMC never bother "investigating" what they mean by "misconduct". Do you care about them or do you just care about your own issues.
GM - research the history of the GMC. Ask yourself what they are doing and then ask yourself whether they are indeed better than the NMC. After you have armed yourself with the knowledge then come back and argue the toss with me.
The fact remains, you currently have no evidence to justify your view. It is your opinion, you are entitled to it but I am entitled to challenge your view - intemperately, with a tone you do not accept or otherwise.
I never overact to the fact that I dislike you and the other bloggers for ignoring many of my friends and colleagues and walking past them while they flounder. Why? Cause you don't even understand what the GMC are up to. Instead of spending your time huffing about my tone - go a read the theory of the GMC because one day it may be you facing their inability to "investigate".
RP
PS
1. Email me directly as yourself
2. We can then talk on the phone - person to person.
3. Then meet up with me and discuss the GMC.
And after that, I shall apologise to you personally. Otherwise, you will just be another guy behind a mask who has no guts to argue with me face to face.
It is hopeless arguing with the invisible man.
RP
Well all that's completely beside the point.
The simple point is that I have not been supportive of the GMC, despite your assertions that I have.
The Health care regulator is of the opinion that the NMC is the worst of the lot, that's the point of the article, fine if you disagree, but it seems that their detailed audit is not something that can be just written off.
The NMC has had far more indepth investigations done of it courtesy of Ben Bradshaws referral due to Jim Devine MP.
There is no such detailed audit on the GMC's procedures, findings, outcomes etc. That is a fact whether you like it or not.
"Well all that's completely beside the point"
Is it really?
"detailed audit"
Excuse me while I get the vomit bowl out [ having no manners that is]. I am surprised they didn't catch R v GMC Ex Parte Remedy UK in that audit or was that the case they missed out of their "sample".
RP
PS lets forget all the "Foreign" doctors who you think are incompetent anyway and lets start by looking at R v GMC Ex Parte Remedy UK.
What investigation did they carry out in that case?
RP
PPS So you chickened out of blogging during the Dr Scott fiasco.
You have chickened out of meeting me
And you have chickened out of declaring you name in public
Why is that if the GMC is considerably better than the NMC?
Not covered by the audit we believe
"One of the main problems identified is that there is no commonly understood working definition of 'serious professional misconduct', through which a doctor may be disciplined or struck off the register. This has undoubtedly led to a lack of clarity among GMC members and staff on the criteria, standards and threshold to be applied in reaching a judgment on cases at the different stages of the complaints procedures.
The research also found marked differences in outcome between different GMC committees, and concluded that this lack of consistency was difficult to account for in the absence of clear reasons given for decisions. Much greater transparency had been introduced at the screening stage of the GMC procedures, but there were still inconsistencies which could not be explained"
Handling Complaints [ GMC]Study by Isobel Allen. Public Policy Institute. [ an organisation that is not staffed by ex GMC employees like the CHRE]
Dr YG
If you can't do better than these pathetic personal insults then it's ever and out from me.
If you can't debate things without behaving so aggressively and unpleasantly then don't be surprised that people won't engage with you, it's rather obvious why people steer so well clear.
Lost your ability to think in a straight line then GM.
Tell me something - "then don't be surprised that people won't engage with you, it's rather obvious why people steer so well clear"
Where did you get the above idea from :)? Another figment of the Doctors.net.uk imagination is it?
RP
PS Lets try this question again
R v GMC Ex Parte Remedy UK.
What investigation did they carry out in that case?
RP
PS I think you are a bit obsessed with this aggressive, ill mannered, tone etc etc crap. Try and answer the above question - for the sake of your MMC colleagues.
Reets
He is just a white medic. You need to give him a break. He has so much by the way of makeup, he doesn't understand what you are trying to say. Try to speak in your strong Indian/Bengali accent - he will dislike you even more. Then just opt for your polite clipped English one and he may just mistake you a private school educated Indian.
Don't waste your time arguing with him. He likes to think none of us associate or like you - we all know different.
Good post on Dev by the way.
MK
Mahesh
Good to see you here! Worry not about GM, he is just in a mood. Male menopause these days, so he is throwing what he knows from his mates on Doctors.net.uk. I tend to just ignore them. Its like ground hog day. They all think we are still in 2001. Had to laugh at his last post. GM is such a little boy on occasion, you just have to press the right buttons to push him into overdrive.
Anyway, email me and we can chat!
RP
Imagine if you had any friends Ritz. That would really burst Garthys bubble.
RP 1 GM 1
Popcorn - First Set
Sorry, it just doesn't give a thrill arguing with a man/boy object with a mask on. I don't do kinky things like that. He will have to take his mask off and I may whip him again.
Until then, I am off for ice-cream and food and to ring the people I apparently don't know. If we are to believe Garth, I am a lonely shriveled up old spinster who has no life :)
Party is over,please stop hiking the traffic here because this blog is officially closed for business unless there is some announcement.
RP
Bit quiet in here
Personally, I think you should find Ferret, kiss him and make him faint. He may just forgive you Ritz.
Can you guys stop posting here please
RP
Kissing FF is not going to be a toad to prince experience. Sorry Rita, I'd leave him where you found him.
The GMC is the only regulatory body that regularly persecutes people for having a touch of mental health. Victorian at best, more likely medieval in origin - something to do with burning witches.
I haven't seen the stats from the NMC but the 5% annual death rate, amongst those who GMC attacks, takes some beating!
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